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August 28, 2011 at 7:56 pm #32226

Bob Wheeler

Hello all.  I’m brand new here, and hoped someone might help me out.  I need to know about how fast the Buffalo River flows in an average spring.  I realize that there are a lot of variables.  I’m looking for an educated guess.

Here’s why… I’m planning a long float next spring, and I’m not 100% sure I’m physically ready.  I need to make 20-25 miles a day, but I can only work out regurlarly on flat water.  I’m just trying to gauge the equivalent.

I’ve paddled the Buffalo many times over the years, but always shorter trips with lots of friends, fishing, swimming, drinking, and shenanigans.  So, I really don’t have a good guess as to my solo travel speed.

Thanks

August 29, 2011 at 8:25 am #32227

Aggroman

Hi Bob, welcome aboard. I know nothing of the river, just wanted to say hey.

September 1, 2011 at 4:53 pm #32228

paddleplacid

It would help to know which Buffalo River you’re asking about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_National_River

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_River_(New_York)

http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/state_parks/buffalo_river/index.html

 

I presume, though, that you’re asking about the Arkansa Buffalo .. ” The upper section of the river in the Ozark National Forest is managed by the U.S. Forest Service ,…” so the Service might be a good source for information on the river.

September 1, 2011 at 4:53 pm #32229

paddleplacid

It would help to know which Buffalo River you’re asking about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_National_River

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_River_(New_York)

http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/state_parks/buffalo_river/index.html

 

I presume, though, that you’re asking about the Arkansa Buffalo .. ” The upper section of the river in the Ozark National Forest is managed by the U.S. Forest Service ,…” so the Service might be a good source for information on the river.

September 7, 2011 at 5:49 pm #32230

yellowcanoe

Bob I have paddled the Buff in AR three times in the spring. Usually I have to wait for the flood to abate and the river open at Ponca. She goes up quick and down quick.  Someday I would really like to paddle it when its calm enough to have blue and not brown water.

 

If you are wanting to do Ponca to White River ( I have never done the Boxley section) you should be able to make the 130 miles in 5 days,  I have done that the three times and without hard paddling.

You might want to have your moving water skills up to date as there is considerable maneuvering in the Ponca-Erbie section. Grey Rocks has always given me some high standing waves though there is a sneak route on the left.

 

Down towards the Nars and Woolum is a section with some whirlpools that may try to throw you against cliffs.

 

Willows are to be avoided..in the spring they sprout up everywhere. If you are going to hit them head on is best.

 

We did one tandem trip and had to backpaddle to do the Ponca- Maumee North section in four days. We were often done paddling our alloted 25 miles in four hours. We started out at flat out dragging and a torrential storm hit that night and then it was a wild ride.

Watch the Hasty Low River Crossing. Its always been a low head dam for me and for some reason a surprise.

September 7, 2011 at 10:47 pm #32231

Bob Wheeler

Hello Aggroman.

Good point PaddlePlacid.  I sometimes forget that we don’t all live in the same neighborhood.

Yellowcanoe, That’s exactly the kind of info I was looking for.  I suppose I should get the proper topo maps and start noting some of this wisdom.  I consider myself pretty solid in fast water, but I’m still wishy washy about running the Hailstone solo.  Maybe I can get some regular white water nutjobs to join me for the first 15 miles.

September 8, 2011 at 5:30 pm #32232

yellowcanoe

http://www.nps.gov/pwr/customcf/apps/maps/showmap.cfm?alphacode=buff&parkname=Buffalo%20National%20River

 

National Geographic makes waterproof maps  for the Buffalo. East section on one and West on another,

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