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November 10, 2009 at 5:22 pm #32694

natecanoes

I know a few of you live by the Missouri River. Have any of you paddled on it?

I am paddling it at the end of July in 2010, (from Kansas City to St Louis) but have never seen the wing dams or barges. I have paddled rivers with similar flow rates, but not wing dams, barges, dredges, etc. Any tips? It’s for the MR340, and I have been checking on their forums too, but more info is always better.

November 10, 2009 at 5:34 pm #32695

Darren

I haven’t paddled the Missouri but I sure am interested in doing so. There is nothing better than a canoe trip and history lesson combo. 

November 11, 2009 at 12:19 am #32696

Dennis

I took a brief trip down the Missouri River one Thanksgiving Day in my Folbot double kayak. I was pretty much swept along in the swift current and wasn’t really sure where I was going. I don’t know what my plan was or if I even had one at the time. This was also back in the days before everyone had cell phones, so I don’t know how I expected to get home after I finished my wild adventure.

That outing was probably not one of my better ideas but I did eventually manage to find my way to an undeveloped county park that I recognized and fortunately I knew some people who lived a short hike away so I was able to call home and get picked up.

I know you have a lot more experience than I did then or now but don’t take the river for granted, it’s powerful. 

I think I would invest in one of those deck mounted strobe lights to make myself a little harder to miss on the water. A radio is not a bad idea either. I’m curious to know how to deal with the locks. Do you portage around them or go through?

November 11, 2009 at 7:15 pm #32697

natecanoes

Strobes are only used as an emergency signal, so I wouldn’t have one. They shut down barge traffic at night during the race, so it’s not much of a worry. Your trip sounds like what I would describe as an adventure Dennis. From videos I have seen the Mo is quite turbulent, and if I have my stuff right the flow is around 6 mph. (2.5 mph floating) It’s good to know you were able to do it and live. I guess I hope I can do the same :)

November 18, 2009 at 5:23 pm #32698

Patrick

I have canoed many sections of the Missouri River, but have yet to tackle the MR 340.  I have found the river to be very enjoyable and moderately easy to canoe. It’s like a big lake with a current. You need to take the river serious but it is basically common sense – stay away from barges, dykes, etc. and dont fall in.

The hardest part of the MR340 will be canoeing at night and keeping up your stamina.  I would recommend you try out the river before the race to get an idea.  There are a few other races on the Missouri, but I think the only one before July 27 is Jeff City’s Race to the Dome.

Good luck next year.

November 18, 2009 at 5:56 pm #32699

James

Patrick-
Welcome to the forum and thanks for posting.

Tell us a little more about the Race to the Dome…it sounds intersting.

-James

November 18, 2009 at 7:03 pm #32700

Patrick

2010 will be the first annual Race to the Dome.  A group of river enthusiasts are planning the charity canoe/kayak race.  Tentative date now is Saturday, July 3rd.  The race will begin in Hartsburg and end in Jefferson City. 15.8 miles.  should take around two hours depending on how hard one paddles.  they have a website -not live yet- http://www.racetothedome.com and a twitter account – @racetothedome.

another great race on the Missouri is Race for the Rivers http://www.racefortherivers.org and @racefortheriver.  it’s a lot of fun.  they have a one day 20 miler and a two day 65 miler.  it’s September 4 and 5 next year.

and of course there is the premier Missouri River Race the MR 340.  http://www.rivermiles.com July 27-30, 2010  Kansas City to St. Charles in 88 hours or less.

I will keep you posted when Race to the Dome becomes finalized.

November 19, 2009 at 9:27 pm #32701

James

Patrick-
Sounds like fun…for some reason I though it was from Jefferson city the the Edward Jones Dome…

Sixteen miles sounds like something I’d be willing to do. Keep us posted and let us know when the website is up.

-James

November 20, 2009 at 6:00 am #32702

natecanoes

Yeah I didn’t know about all the other ones. I’m kinda new to the racing thing, but love long river trips. 340 miles is right up my alley, although 16 miles could be a lot of fun too.

November 20, 2009 at 11:15 am #32703

rivertrash

There are no locks on the Missouri, and no dams downstream of Yankton, S.D. Would definately suggest doing some prep trial runs on the river so you understand how it works, etc. You’ll find that the 340 forum is packed with both good and bad advice, but mostly good.

One question I’m often asked about the Missouri is: “So is this the normal level of the river?” and the answer to that would be there is no normal level. It’s important to realize that the river can jump 12 feet in one day, and that changes the way it behaves and whether or not wing dikes and buoys are exposed. The 340 is timed to hit generally low flows but that is all dependent on rainfall upstream, sometimes not very far upstream. There certainly have been floods in July, they are just not normal.

Many people have the misconception that the level of the river is controlled by dams, but through the state of Missouri it is more a reflection of tributary flow. The Kaw, Grand, Chariton, Osage and Gasconade all have major effects on the level of the Missouri. The Osage can change dramatically because of the Bagnell Dam (which creates the Lake of the Ozarks).

Most of the time the speed of the current is in the 3-5 mph range, but the speed of current can be dramatically different depending where you are across the width of the river. Along shore and between wing dikes it can even move upstream.

February 13, 2010 at 5:51 pm #32704

BWCAJohn

I canoed from Eagle Creek to Judith landing last summer and I would definitely recommend it.  I was on the river in the first week of July and the river was not flowing very quickly so it was very easy to paddle.  There were no rapids or dangerous obstacles that we encountered so novice paddlers should have no problems there.

The scenery was pretty amazing and really makes the trip worthwhile.  There are slot canyons to explore, natural features like Hole-In-the-Wall and the white cliffs along the way.  You also get to camp at or near many of the sites that Lewis and Clark stayed at so there are some great opportunities to immerse yourself in the history.  There are also homesteads and the remnants of native american camps including teepee rings that are fun to explore.

You will want to bring lots of water since the river water is not drinkeable, and there really isn’t anywhere to fill up along the way.  Also make sure you have a tent that can stand up to the strong winds that seem to blow through every afternoon. 

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