This topic has 6 voices, contains 20 replies, and was last updated by paddleplacid 381 days ago.
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| May 5, 2011 at 1:00 am #31159 | |
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Troll_Poet |
Hello, I am an avid canoeist that frequents several forums, I am on this site tonight to warn you about a Troll in your ranks. He is a guy named Robert, he also goes by Bob. On internet forums he goes by the names 100mphcanoe, paddleplacid, poetic canoe, beachbum_poet, water tramp, Targaped, Olympian, Zizz, or a host of other things depending on his mood. Here, on this forum he has used the names paddleplacid and 100mphcanoe the most, here are a couple of links on this site that demonstrate his dual posting identities: http://www.adventurecanoe.com/forum/topic/ive-been-kicked-off-many-canoe-forums http://www.adventurecanoe.com/forum/topic/hello-from-new-jersey He is not much of a canoeist, or outdoorsman- but he is a legendary TROLL on internet forums. Read this link and learn about how he almost single handedly brought down a forum on mopeds: http://www.mopedarmy.com/wiki/Targaped Also on that site his real name and photo are given, (you can find him on Facebook also) there are also lots of things to read about him if you google him. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I just saw a few of you are falling into his trap and I just figured I would warn you before he ruins this forum and wastes alot of your time. The best thing to do is ban him, then block/delete all his new attempts at coming back on and disrupting the forum. There are several suggestions on how to deal with him, and how to recognize his posts on http://www.mopedarmy.com/wiki/Targaped He loves to misquote scientific findings, distort statistics, twist peoples words around, and above all go after people who are truly knowlegeable on a subject. Here is just a short list of forums he has been banned from: http://www.songofthepaddle.co.uk/forum/forum.php?s=cceab0e7ac1e816af3f0df08683be8af (here he was water tramp) http://www.mopedarmy.com (known as targaped, olympian, zizz) http://www.outdooradventurecanada.com/forum/ (known as poetic canoe) http://waterwalker.ca/fireside/. (poetic canoe) Consider yourselves warned. Enter discussions with him at your own risk. He is only here to disrupt things, not exchange knowledge. |
| May 5, 2011 at 8:31 am #31160 | |
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paddleplacid |
Well, my fame has caught up with me. I think any informed internet user will take the “troll” accusation for what it is, an accusation, but yes, like I admitted straight away on this forum I’ve been banned from several forums because I speak the truth and not lies about safety issues. I was banned from an astronomy forum for providing published facts and documentation which prove the Big Bang theory false. Whoever posted this thread doesn’t know me at all though, or he or she would know I’m a genuine outdoorsperson with considerable canoe experience, as related in posts on this forum .. after all, it’s not just anybody who makes solo canoe trips of 12 weeks duration safely in senior citizen years. I suspect the person who started this thread is the moderator of a canoe forum I was banned from for using polite and informed language and facts to disagree with her about a few important safety matters, I then reporting her to her advertisers as misrepresenting their products and using their money to endanger lives on the water. Some of her advertisers checked her out, and I received thank you emails from them. If I didn’t know how absolutely insane people can get on the internet I’d be surprised by this thread, but here it is. By the way, I only switched from the username 100mph canoe on this forum because I lost my password and had to open a new account. I think my identity is obvious to everyone. The Drama artist who started this thread has satisfied his or her need for attempting to instigate strife and bad feelings, and it should be obvious who the troll is. I am a member in good standing on Moped Army, although we did have problems because, again, some members were promoting unsafe driving and repair practices which I attempted to correct, was ostracized for a time by a few ‘old time’ members, but my efforts were finally recognized as being extremely valuable to the moped community, especially because my input came from experience, a 7,500 miles moped trip from Ottawa to Victoria and back in Canada, as well as having contacted manufacturers about their parts and processes. So .. that’s my response and I’m thankful I can be useful to the internet community in general. |
| May 5, 2011 at 9:22 am #31161 | |
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Dog_paddle |
Wow….this is really interesting. I read that entire page on you on Moped Army! It’s true I maybe a little crazy to paddle Class V….but you are just plain crazy….lol…I fell into the trap- hook, line and sinker! I can’t decide if you are a troll, or an essentric outdoorsman with a few quirks, or totally insane. One thing for sure- you are original. If I met you in person, and you told me:
I’d probably just back away slowly, not look you in the eyes and then walk off. I guess, here online I’ll just read your posts as amusing distractions from the real topic, and not bother responding to them because you are obviouly operating in some other reality. If you really have done the canoe trips you state- I applaud you for getting out there in your advanced age. |
| May 5, 2011 at 9:49 am #31162 | |
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paddleplacid |
Well Dog Paddle, if you really have guided class five trips on five continents I’ll urge you to give it up as a dangerous pursuit which will eventually claim lives. P.S. Age has very little to do with anything. A 70 year old from Ottawa had been and still was making annual solo canoe trips from Ottawa to New Brunswick at the time of my first trip at age 57 .. that’s down a river with more flow than the Rhine, into the St. Lawrence Seaway, and then into the Gulf of St. Lawrence. Too bad he’s not on this forurm. |
| May 5, 2011 at 10:17 am #31163 | |
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Dog_paddle |
——————————————— Just to set the record straight on my background. I never said that I have “guided class five trips on five continents “….I have never guided Class V to paying clients, and don’t claim to have in any of my posts. Bob here, just doesnt comprehend what he reads very well….. I stated in another post, ”I have led Class V kayaking expeditions on multiple continents”….which is true. However leading an expedition and being a guide are different things. The people on those expeditions (Ecuador, Peru, Guatemala, Alaska, Montana, Wyoming) were all my peers, and Class V paddlers in there own right- I was just the chosen leader due to having the most experience in river rescue, wilderness emt, logistics, etc… |
| May 5, 2011 at 10:20 am #31164 | |
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Always January (Randy) |
I had already connected 100mphcanoe and paddleplacid (obsession with prospectors and vague references to being banned in other forums), but I had no idea how far it went. Interesting.
I do admit to doing some research yesterday. I thought perhaps he was this guy, but maybe they are one in the same: http://www.canoekayaksafety.com/
I’m not sure how a single person, strange as they may be, can bring down an entire forum though (contacting advertisers is hitting below the belt a bit). I tend to take everything I read online largely with a grain of salt and though I’m a little worried that the uninformed will take potentially bad advice, for the most part I let people have their own opinions, as odd as they may seem to me. Ultimately it is the reader’s responsibility to weigh all the information available and make the best decisions for themselves.
I’m with Dog Paddle. If indeed you are taking long solo trips in your canoe late(er) on in life, then good on you! If you are here just to incite arguments then this is where my involvement ends. All the same, I love to talk canoeing, even with those who have opinions differing from mine, so long as their intentions are a friendly conversation.
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| May 5, 2011 at 10:33 am #31165 | |
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Dog_paddle |
So, Randy maybe you and I are both part of a Ponzi scheme to make people get instruction and didnt even realize it! lol….Funny, I did some investigating as well because I thought PaddlePlacid was the author of the book “Up the Creek” that he keeps refering to. I don’t think he is the author of that book, or the website you linked to…but, I bet those guys would all get along together…..
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| May 5, 2011 at 10:39 am #31166 | |
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Aggroman |
Hey Randy, how are ya man? Just when the forum nearly dies, it’s brought back to life. Although not in the most positive ways, but still, it’s alive. I love talking about canoes and hearing the trip reports. This bickering seems to be getting old tho. Anybody been out lately? Got any pics? How was the weather? |
| May 5, 2011 at 10:41 am #31167 | |
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Always January (Randy) |
Hehe, us and our affiliation with the murdeous ACA.
Certainly can’t claim that these people are not creative in their ideas. |
| May 5, 2011 at 11:04 am #31168 | |
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Always January (Randy) |
Hey Scott, good to see you again.
I just spent all of last weekend on the water. We flew an Instructor trainer and his assistant clear out from Minnesota to give us a workshop on teaching and refining our paddling skills. I have lots of pictures from that and I’ll post something up soon when I get a chance. |
| May 5, 2011 at 11:23 am #31169 | |
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Aggroman |
We want pics Randy! By the way, great photos from Lost Coast, absolutely beautiful. And the pic of you and the drink….i’m glad I read that it was gatorade, you kinda looked like Bear Grylls about to drink something….well, manmade. LOL |
| May 5, 2011 at 11:55 am #31170 | |
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Always January (Randy) |
Ha, fortunately there is plenty of fresh water on the Lost Coast so I don’t have to resort to Bear Grylls levels for refreshment |
| May 5, 2011 at 1:36 pm #31171 | |
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Always January (Randy) |
Back onto this topic, I checked out some links, and I’m willing to give him the benefit of doubt. His facebook page substantiates all his views as things he truly believes and does (photos of the red crocs, bear staff, the homemade wanigan which is actually kind of cool, canoe and moped loaded for long trips, etc). I’m not saying I agree with everything he says (probably closer to “very little of it”), but it’s not like he’s just making it up for arguments sake.
Time will tell how well we all get along here, but I think it’s pretty premature to start banning people (not that there appears to be any moderators left that frequent the forum judging by spam posts). |
| May 5, 2011 at 2:58 pm #31172 | |
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Dog_paddle |
Well, Bob I checked out your facebook pics as well, and it seems your all real- no troll. I admit after looking at all your pics, your probably a pretty facinating guy- in a mad scientist, LSD burn out kinda way. I have met quite a few guys like you over the years, and although I’ll most likely never take any of your safety advice, I will always appreciate your free-thinking mind set. Keep it real- man…. My favorite pic of you…..pretty much sums your wingnut style and philosophies up for me
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| May 5, 2011 at 6:04 pm #31173 | |
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paddleplacid |
Well guys, I’m glad the attempt to sabotage my safety efforts built up my credibility because at my age after having had the adventures I’ve had safely, with no broken bones or first aid other than duct tape and paper towel for bandaging a cut or two, it should be obvious I practice what I preach regarding safety. It should be relatively easy for the moderator-administrator here to find out who the saboteur is, by comparing IP addresses of the person starting this thread to other posters. Whoever did it is obviously a bit on the cracked side in not being able to tolerate someone thinking differently than they do. I have made an enemy or two along the way, and was banned from one major Canadian canoeing forum for daring to reveal in a mild mannered and polite way the amount of pollution in Canada’s waterways. Here in Canada our government backs attempts to draw foreign tourists strongly by subsidizing our glossy outdoors magazines which present the image of Canada as unspoiled wilderness, as well obviously as susidizing one or more of our outdoor adventure forums. For me to say there is serious pollution to paddle through on many of our rivers and lakes was just unacceptable.
One thing I don’t understand though, is why most of us rely on other people’s word for our safety. For instance, I think it was Randy who said he would side with the Whitewater Rescue guy over me regarding wearing Crocs in fast water .. but why wouldn’t (Randy if it was you) simply try them out yourself? I hope, Dog Paddle, that you might take my advice and try a pair of the softer Crocs which grab rocks pretty darn well, like I mentioned in a post previous to this one on the subject, because I think your experience was probably with an unflexible, hard plastic forumalted Croc.
Anyways .. my point is, always has been, and always will be that whoever is reading these forums should have the opportunity of reading all opinions and information no matter how silly those opinions and informations might sound to one poster or another because, like the quote says, the definition of an expert can be said to be someone who knows so much they can’t learn anything new. I’m glad to be talking with you guys and have been thankful for the opportunity to practice restraining my baser emotions in my responses. |
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